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   July 28 at 9:43 am

   Stung by recent published evidence documenting Robert Zink’s
   involvement in the orchestrated, anonymous defamation campaign against
   David Griffin and his attorney, Jorge Hevia, Mr. Zink yesterday
   published an appeal to end what he called the "nasty flame wars,"
   stating at:
   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/golden-dawn-forum/message/16986
   "the Esoteric Order of the Golden Dawn is against any internet flame
   wars and or propaganda websites….We want these nasty flame wars to
   end and encourage all our members who may or may not have participated
   in such negative posting to cease."
   This sounds suspiciously like the official statement made by
   Chic Cicero, who claims to have licensed Robert Zink, on the Hermetic
   Order of the Golden Dawn, Inc. web site:
   http://www.hermeticgoldendawn.org/trademark.htm
   "We are opposed to the deliberate harassing of authors, groups,
   fraternities, etc."
   "We are opposed to… internet slander or abuse, or other manipulative
   tactics."
   In any case, certain individuals immediately questioned the sincerity
   of Mr. Zink’s statement, suggesting that it amounted to little more
   than "damage control spin." Mr. Zink’s "appeal" might have been more
   believable had he not in the same message referred to the leaders of
   two other orders using slurs as "Chic Cicero of the Golden Dawn Florida
   Corp. against Mr. David Griffin of the Authentic Golden Dawn," instead
   of referring to these orders by their proper names, "The Hermetic Order
   of the Golden Dawn, Inc." and the "Hermetic Order of the Golden
   Dawn." During the course of the day, Mr. Zink’s credibility was further
   eroded by new and ongoing defamation posts, despite Mr. Zink’s alledged
   "call to end them." For example:
   http://groups.google.com/group/alt.magick/browse_frm/thread/3d2edf853...
   http://groups.google.com/group/alt.magick/browse_frm/thread/6844e9c95...
   Obviously concerned by persons questioning his sincerity, Robert Zink
   today issued a new statement, in which he stated:
   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/golden-dawn-forum/message/17009
   "I stand before each and every one of you and can say completely
   and honestly that I have never posted a flame post, negative website
   or used an anonymous -mailer. I call upon those who make
   blind accusations against me or the order that I serve, to provide
   hard, cold concrete evidence that I have participated in these
   internet flame wars. Whatever I say, I say as myself (Frater PDR) or my
   handle Zanoni49."
   

   Robert Zink now claims never to have made a flame post of negative web
   site. Here is hard, cold concrete evidence as Mr. Zink has requested be
   provided (together with URL links to authenticate Mr. Zink’s
   authorship).

   Below, Mr. Zink personally "flames" David Griffin at:
   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/golden-dawn-forum/message/16581
   "Griffen is a bully. He wants it all and will create enemies to unite
   his factions."
   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/golden-dawn-forum/message/16929
   "Mr. Griffin is alledged to have once said "If I cannont own it all, I
   will destroy it."
   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/golden-dawn-forum/message/16929
   "David Griffin and the Authentic Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn have
   done nothing but tried to control, threaten and
   deprive everyone else of their right to be themselves."

   When an extremely inflammatory web site appeared on the internet
   defaming Chic Cicero, at Mr. Zink, without providing any evidence
   whatsoever, flamed David Griffin, accusing him of having published it.
   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/golden-dawn-forum/message/16815
   "Next, we see a hate site re-appear on alt. Magick…directed at Chic
   Cicero… But who would put up such as site…Well, it would need to be
   someone threatened by Chic’s lawsuit against David Griffin. Why else?
   They don’t want to see the
   community come together, because if we do, as a GD community, then the
   Griffen/Highlander theory would be null.( There can only be ONE)."

   Regarding even more serious defamation, Robert Zink now writes at:
   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/golden-dawn-forum/message/16986
   "I see no evidence to believe that Mr. Griffin is involved
   with anything that is Nazi. This is pure propaganda and I reject it and
   ask you to do the same."
   Yet the same Mr. Zink previously wrote as well:
   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/golden-dawn-forum/message/16857
   "This association with Nazism imaginary or real on the part of
   David Grifin may explain on a deeper level why he so much wants to
   cotrol the Golden Dawn, and why it may have been necessary for Chic
   Cicero who is the legal owner of the US trademark to file a lawsuit
   against Mr. Griffin. Control was a big part of Hitlers mentality."
   Robert Zink now admits that this was nothing more than "pure
   propaganda."

   Robert Zink today writes at:
   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/golden-dawn-forum/message/16986
   "I do not accept that anyone including Mr. Griffin who is doing the
   Great Work would even for a moment be part of any such Nazi
   movement. This is pure propaganda and I reject it and ask you to do the
   same.
   Yet the same Robert Zink previously wrote referring to Griffin and
   HOGD:
   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/golden-dawn-forum/message/16723
   "Well, there has been a great deal of confusion about the connection if
   any with the Golden Dawn and Nazism…. several people have aired
   concern that the Golden dawn has a Nazi basis, it does not, or should I
   say the Esoteric
   Order of the Golden Dawn is anti-nazi."

   Today Robert Zink writes at:
   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/golden-dawn-forum/message/16986
   "In the last year or so there have been several websites
   proclaiming that Mr. Griffin is a Nazi. I do not condone these
   websites."
   And further at that:
   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/golden-dawn-forum/message/17009
   I stand before each and every one of you and can say completely
   and honestly that I have never posted a… negative website.

   Yet the same Robert Zink indeed did himself advertise to promote and
   propagate just such a web site!
   Robert Zink wrote at:
   http://golden-dawn.blogspot.com/2005_02_12_golden-dawn_archive.html
   "The Golden Dawn…Enemy of Nazism!
   The Golden Dawn and Nazism are enemies both in nature and in practice,
   and the very essence of either philosophy are diametrically opposed to
   one another. In the past some political groups have employed occult
   methods to fuel their political agenda, most notable is the Nazis
   party; even today there are some groups whom claim the Golden Dawn name
   and share affiliation with the Nazi party….For alledged evidence of
   Golden Dawn Nazism click here: http://hogd666.50megs.com/"

   Please note that at the time that Robert Zink made the above post
   http://hogd666.50megs.com/
   hosted the the self-same web site "proclaiming that David Griffin is a
   Nazi" that Mr. Zink now claims to be nothing more than "pure
   propaganda" and that "he does not condone." Does not condone? Then why
   did Robert Zink advertise it in his official EOGD blog? By Robert
   Zink’s own admission, the site in question, with its faked
   testimonials, misattributed quotations, pure fabrications, and circular
   arguments amounts to nothing more than "pure propaganda." Nonetheless,
   Robert Zink has been proven to have, on at least one occasion,
   advertised to promote that very site, and willfully, maliciously, and
   intentionally propagated the very rumors that Robert Zink, by his own
   admission, knew to be false, and "pure propaganda."

   Robert Zink today claims that at:
   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/golden-dawn-forum/message/17009
   "I stand before each and every one of you and can say completely
   and honestly that I have never posted a flame post, negative website
   or used an anonymous -mailer."

   Can any reasonable person still believe this? Is it not reasonable
   rather to infer that Robert Zink, having been proven to have advertised
   at least on one occasion the site in question, was not also its
   creator? Is it not further reasonable to infer that he may well have
   advertised the site in question more than the one occasion that can be
   proven, albeit anonymously. Mr. Zink claim’s that: "I never used an
   anonymous remailer," but considering his lack of honesty about flame
   posts and the promotion of negative web sites, can he still be believed
   about anonymity?

   The negative web site in question was published repeatedly using
   anonymous proxy servers on free web hosts and promoted using anonymous
   remailers so that the publishers and promoters could not be traced.
   Indeed, the only person ever to have been positively identified to have
   either published and promoted this negative web site is Robert A. Zink.
   Under the circumstances, is it not reasonable to infer that Robert A.
   Zink, despite his numerouos denials, has all along personally
   orchestrated the ongoing defamation against Mr. David Griffin. He
   certainly has motive enough in the desire to harm the reputation of a
   competing order!

   Mr. Zink yesterday wrote:

   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/golden-dawn-forum/message/16986
   "the Esoteric Order of the Golden Dawn is against any internet flame
   wars and or propaganda websites….We want these nasty flame wars to
   end and encourage all our members who may or may not have participated
   in such negative posting to cease."

   Alas, following Mr. Zink’s appeal, the flames and negative web site
   promotions have NOT ceased. On the contrary, they have been intensified
   and even published for the first time in translation, in an effort to
   reach a more international audience with the defamation. In fact, the
   same, exact defamatory web site that Robert Zink advertised on his
   official EOGD blog at:
   http://golden-dawn.blogspot.com/2005_02_12_golden-dawn_archive.html
   was published anonymously today in German translation for the first
   time, and advertised anonymously at:
   http://groups.google.com/group/alt.magick/browse_frm/thread/840296bf3...

   In conclusion, on the same day that orchestrated defamation has been
   intensified by the anonymous publication in German
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